This week, we bid a fond farewell to Bailey the Instagram Cat, tear apart bullshit art, discuss Blindboy Boatclub, ponder the space program, and check up on our Orgone levels. 

Mark's had a tough couple of weeks, and he's boiling mad (almost literally). Bryan debuts his super evil new voice which hurts after a few minutes. We talk about disappearing cat poop, tulpas, aliens, and movies.

This week features visual artist and graphic novelist Natalie McKean! We talk art, origins and the fascinating reasons Natalie creates "metaphysical sci-fi". Prepare to follow us through some strange and unexpected wormholes as we get into the nature of reality and creativity!

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Intro music by Jean Baudin. Find his work at
Interviews and art by Monstark. Find his podcasts, art and products at
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